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Did Jack Abramoff give money to any Democrats or Democratic causes? Some time back, irritated by attempts to paint the Abramoff shenanigans as a bipartisan scandal, I offered a small sum ($10) on the Far-Right newsbusters.org site to anyone who could find that Jack Abramoff gave money to any Democrat or any Democratic cause. I've received some flack from some of the NewsBusters netizens, who claim that I've lost the bet. I think I won. Welcher or winner? Here's the facts, you be the judge: First the the facts on the Abramoff case with regard to Democrats and cash:
Now let's take a look at the terms of the offer. As far as I can tell from looking back with Google, I offered a reward on three occassions: The first offer was on January 5th, 2006: "If you can, before 9:00 PM EST, come up with a credible reference demonstrating that [Democratic Senator] Patty Murray received personal donations from Abramoff, I'll send a $10 contribution to any cause you desire." Since Abramoff did not make any personal donations to any Democrats, I clearly can keep my cash. The second offer, made on January 17th 2006, was a bit more liberal - it was made to address some bellyachin' along the lines of "somehow we just know that the Democrats got money from something illegal that Abramoff was involved in". So I opened it up to contributions from any person or entity in the "criminal cabal". Here's the offer I made: "I'll make a $10 contribution in your name to the cause of your choice if you're the first person, before midnight tonight, to reference a reliable source that indicates that any Democrat received money:
Still safe here - nobody has shown that an indicted Abramoff associate or client ever gave a cent to a Democrat or Democratic cause. So scratch the "getting if from Abramoff's criminal cabal" angle. The bellyachin' continued, along the lines of "Well, we just know that this is a bipartisan scandal! Abramoff must have told his customers to bribe Democrats!" This should have been covered by the previous bet - after all, if the customers did something illegal, they should be indicted. But I acquiesced yet again and, on January 20th, 2006, I expanded the offer: "We Liberals are tired of the press making stuff up in order to appease the Fringe Right. The Democrats have tremendous faults, but stretching reality to pretend that the Democrats have sunk to the same moral depths as have the Republicans is just wrong, wrong, wrong. Once again, my offer to the Right: I will donate $10 to the cause of your choice if you are the first one, by midnite tonight, to provide a credible demonstration that:
The expansion was that I'd cough up the cash if "an entity substantially controlled by Jack Abramoff donated any money to a Democrat or a Democratic entity" Now some folks seem to be having an issue with the term "substantially controlled". They seem to feel that Jack Abramoff. "substantially controlled" the Indian Tribes that were his customers. Seems like an odd way to think, but let's flesh it out: what does "substantially controlled" mean? My own understanding was that it means an entity who can, effectively by himself, herself, or itself, make all the decisions for an entity. But perhaps I was mistaken. I first tried to find a definition for substantially controlled on Google. I found the phrase used in many legal documents - but no definition. So I turned to the news group alt.lawyers, figuring lawyers should know the precise meaning. My post was as follows: "I have a bet which hinges on the definition of "Substantial Control". Does it mean any measure of influence, or does it mean significant control, or does it mean pretty-much-total control? Unfortunately, I cannot seem to find a definition on the Web. Thanks!" I received one response: "That's a very hard question, maybe even impossible to answer. The first The second reason is that you haven't provided the context of the term. If If an English comp answer would help, as opposed to a law answer, Quite a reasoned answer! And certainly more than I was expecting. Just for kicks, I replied to the respondent with a followup in the hope that he could make a ruling on my exact usage of the phrase: "Thanks for your answer! For amusement, I'll provide more context - but this isn't exactly highbrow stuff... The bet is on whether Jack Abramoff gave money to Democrats. In the terms of the bet, if Jack Abramoff or an entity substantially controlled by Jack Abramoff gave money to Democrats, the bet will be paid off. It turns out that Indian tribes who employed Abramoff gave money to Democrats; and Abramoff's coworkers gave money to Democrats; but none came from Abramoff himself. There is no evidence that Abramoff actually told his coworkers or customers that they should contribute. So the question: were either Abramoff's coworkers or customers "substantially controlled" by Abramoff? I would say no, unless some more information turns up that shows at least that Abramoff asked for money to be contributed. If the request did turn up, then it would have to be determined how much control Abramoff had to make that request turn into a contribution. Thanks" I actually got a response! "A person's customers, suppliers and employees would never be considered to Which is, pretty much what I thought it was. So the $10 is staying put in my pocket, no matter how much bellyachin' I get - I guess we'll just have to file this Righty attempt to redefine language under "Truthiness". |
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